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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

y does people think that they can get to everything with lies? Mad

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an update from Russia...the accusations are still going about their song and how it was copied from another composer. Also the song was performed before their selection. It looks like it could be disqualified. I hope the truth comes out, but als feel sorry for the young girl if she's just following what her parents/teachers have told her to do and that her once in a lifetime chance will be taken away from her.
I'll keep you updated with the news.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FunkyFish wrote:
Also the song was performed before their selection.


Well then there is solid evidence to disqualify her even if the other thing is fake Surprised Surprised
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor Sasha. I think she should be disqualified but as it isn`t her fault. I really do believe it isn`t. They should allow her to take part next year too!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. If they disqualified her now and made Oleg the winner, she could probably enter again Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will never happend anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the rules have been broken and the EBU get involved then she could be disqualified. I have a friend who works on the JESC team in Russia. He wasn't aware of the problems until I told him so Russian TV won't have looked into it yet. Oh and he prefers Oleg Wink Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

take a look at this: http://esckaz.com/jesc/2007/
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caroline wrote:
Will never happend anyway.

Yes and I read this:

esckaz wrote:
European Broadcasting Union will be checking on whether song qualifies according to the rules only after it will be officially submitted to the organizers, which will happen on the meenting of heads of delegations in Autumn.

Which means if RTR don't do anything about it then Russia will surely be disqualified anyway later on.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People are assuming here that the song has broken the rules. I've spoken to people in RTR and EBU and they don't seem to be worried about it. There might be some rules that are not public, which means that the song is ok. This composer might be making it up to try and get money or recognition, things are different in every country. In terms of the song being performed before the national selection seems to be a direct violation of the 2006 rules (http://www.junioreurovision.tv/www/images/stories/files/2006/extractsrulesjesc2006.pdf). Section 1.1.1d
1.1.2b states that the composer must be a singer or musician on the stage.

I'll leave it at that for the moment, but I encourage everyone to read the 2006 rules, they are very interesting!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think those rules may have been changed because we know the rules about professional singers has been taken out this year.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where was it mentioned about professional singers being allowed in?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alina Grosu (http://www.alinagrosu.com) is a finalist in the Ukrainian selection and NTU claims that the EBU let them do that. (http://junioreurovision.myfreeforum.org/about717.html)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I'm aware they have not changed that rule. The only way a child can have a cd before they are enter JESC is if it's a cd from a competition, such as the Romanian Goldenstar competition as the child isn't being professionally represented.
Just because Ukranian TV says the EBU have changed the rules, it might not mean they have. There is always miscommunication in the world of JESC and rumours that end up being false.
I'll ask my friend who works for EBU about this rule and see if I can get the 2007 rules.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but, is she disqualified or not? Smile or are they still busy with it? Smile
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